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Self Publishing with Lightning Source PoD


In 2004 I was writing a series of articles about Dan Brown's next book when a great thought hit me: why not do a little extra work and publish my work as a book. The big question was, how? The standard model of publishing didn't exactly suit my situation. If I attempted to 'sell' the book to a major publisher, even if successful it would likely take 12 months to 2 years to get the book on shelves (the standard turn-around). Brown's book would have likely been out by then (although, in this particular case, his book has been delayed). If I did an off-set run out of my own money, I would likely need around $5000 to print 1000 copies, a substantial risk for an author to take. Furthermore, I faced distribution difficulties as I live in Australia.

One final idea was worth checking though - the developing industry of Print-on-Demand. After plenty of online searching, I came across a Print-on-Demand company called Lightning Source, which offered the perfect solution for me. Below I'll outline why Lightning Source (LS) suited me so well, and why it will probably suit most other authors as well.

One of the great attractions of LS is that they are owned by Ingram, one of the biggest book distributors in the U.S., so if anybody orders the book through their local bookstore it an be supplied easily to that store. The other positive about this is that Ingram and LS have a 'direct line' so to speak with Amazon - anything printed by LS is put on Amazon by default. Lastly, Lightning Source have printing plants in both the U.S. and the U.K., so your book can easily be distributed not only in America, but also across Europe.

Under the standard publishing paradigm, to get a book into bookshops, you need to offer a discount to the distributor (Ingram) of 50-65% of retail price...which makes it very difficult to turn a profit! However, if you are not backed by a decent publisher, it may not really matter about the bookstores, as they are not likely to stock your book anyhow (and bookstores will want to return your book if it doesn't sell, which is an added financial risk). Here the Lightning Source system comes into its own. Amazon will stock your book at retail price, even if you go as low as 20% wholesale discount. If we take an example book which costs $20, under the standard publishing model we are selling it wholesale at $8-$10, while under the LS model we sell wholesale at $15. Obviously, this offers a much higher profit return per book. What's more, the books are only printed as they are ordered, so there is no risk with returns as in the standard model.

It's not worth my while to order cartons of books myself and sell them through my website, as I'm in Australia and the freight cost is prohibitive. However, this would certainly be an option for you if you have a base in the US or UK, and Lightning Source can drop-ship copies of your book to your door on request. The thing to remember is that while Amazon takes $2.00 per $10 book, they handle all the packing and postage, financial transactions, returns etc - once you sell from your own site you are the one to look after this side of things (and the financial transactions part is a whole issue on its own). Personally, I'm happy to give Amazon a few dollars per book to handle all these things. But certainly, drop-shipping is worth contemplating if you can sell through a network of local stores or markets.

Lightning Source as a printing option removes nearly all risk from being a self-publisher. There is an initial setup cost of approximately $100, and apart from a few ancillary costs (e.g. purchasing an ISBN for your book) that is the complete financial risk. Once setup, the cost per book (for paperback) is around $1 flat fee, plus around a cent and a half per page (so a 200 page book costs $3.50 to print, while a 500 page book costs $7.40 to print). Finally, there is an ongoing listing fee of $12 per book each year. Mind you, this fee gets your book registed on both LS in the US and the UK (and as such, Amazon US and UK) - a trivial amount when you consider you can recoup it with two sales.

As an example, using LS and Amazon: a 200 page book would cost you $3.50 each to produce. If you sell this book on Amazon for $13.95 (a standard price for that size book), giving Amazon a short discount of 20%, then Amazon will pay you $11.16 per copy sold (.80 x $13.95). As such, you will make a profit of $7.66 per book ($11.16 - $3.50 printing charge). Therefore, if you sell 15 copies, you have broken even (paying off setup and listing fees). Everything on top is $7.66 per book profit (and no returns to worry about, as is the case in bookstores!).

Needless to say, it's still difficult to justify the time put into writing a book with the likely profits. The upshot though is that it's good for your CV, and provides opportunities. In my case, it led to much interest from publisheres around the world. My book has since been taken up by a publisher in the US (renamed The Guide to Dan Brown's The Solomon Key by them), and foreign rights have been sold to more than ten territories. So my advice: if you really want to pursue a career in writing in these areas, then go for it - just don't expect it to pay for the time involved up front!

The only other caveat with LS is that they don't do great graphics...their presses are suited mainly to text, although I have 13 images in my book and they turned out good enough for my purposes. Recently, LS have added new OCE presses which are said to provide better quality, not to mention they also do colour books as well now (at a premium though!).

As above, remember too though that there are other costs involved in producing a book as well, which LS don't do for you. You need to purchase an ISBN (cheaper to buy a block of 10 than just 1), and if you don't want to do the typesetting and cover design yourself, you have to pay for that too (we did it in-house with Indesign and Photoshop, so if you're happy with your own skills you can certainly do it for no cost except your own time).

The profit margins via the LS-Amazon route though are really impressive, and there's a large number of independent authors/publishers following that route. I recommend reading through Morris Rosenthal's excellent website for a narrative of his own experience, which gave me my first glimpse of a self-publishing future. There are also a number of mailing lists for POD, which are handy for first-time publishers/authors (the archives are quite voluminous to work through though!).

Lightning Source also offers a quick turnaround. In my case, I uploaded the PDF files on December 2nd, I received the proof from Lightning Source on December 16th (to Australia, so this would be a reduced time lag if based in the US) and confirmed it within a day or two, and the book showed up as listed on Amazon UK on December 24th and Amazon US on December 28th. You normally have to upload your own cover image and publicity blurb to Amazon once they have listed it, although this isn't much of a hassle to do.

If you are looking for a way to just print off 25 books as 'show books' to send to publishers, or give to family etc, you can't go past LS.

To sum up, the advantages to printing with Lightning Source are:

  • You can print just one book if you want.
  • While their price per unit is quite a bit higher than an offset print run of 10,000 copies, it is quite comparable to a 1000 copy print run (at page counts around the 200 mark at least) without the stress of having to spend $5000 and sell 400 copies to recoup the expense. With LS, you can recoup your initial expense by selling 15-20 copies.
  • LS have a 'direct line' to Amazon - any books you publish through LS will automatically be available for sale through Amazon.
  • The Amazon relationship allows you to 'short discount', allowing maximum profits on your book, while letting them handle the selling and sending of the book.

The disadvantages to LS are:

  • It is very difficult to get the book into 'bricks and mortar' stores. Publishers with distribution relationships can get books out quite easily - if you are on your own via Lightning Source though, it will take quite a bit of work (consisting often of creating relationships with individual bookstores). On the flipside, LS is owned by Ingram (a big distributor in America), so if anyone wants to order your book in to their local bookstore, it should be easily supplied to them.
  • The quality isn't quite as good as offset printing...although I don't have too many complaints about the quality of my book.
  • This quality problem is most pronounced in images within the book. Additionally, LS do not do colour printing within the book (though your cover can be). This is set to change in August 2006.
  • Profit is larger on smaller books, as you pay per page. 200 pages is a much better financial setup than 500 pages - however, this doesn't suit a lot of fiction.

Print-on-Demand is the start of a new era. Tied closely to the global reach of Internet marketing, and the international distribution system of Amazon, it provides real opportunities for the author who is thinking of self-publishing.

Comments

Hi. I hope you don't mind me

Hi. I hope you don't mind me popping up and asking this, but I'm an Aussie who's planning to go with LS for the international/Amazon pathway too. Thanks for such an informative post.

But anyway, I was just wondering if you had to send them any tax stuff, like forms for the IRS. Some of the other companies I've researched (LSI's competitors) seem to require it, which can incur other expenses.

No

I didn't have to send any tax information. I did sign up a few years ago though, so I can't say whether their policy has changed.

Kind regards,
Greg

Lightning Source

I'm a book designer and have used LSI on several occasions and all were disasters..... I'm not a fan and wouldn't recommend them to anyone! For first-timers, this is the LAST place you want to go.

Lissa

You say potato...

lissajomonroe: "I'm a book designer and have used LSI on several occasions and all were disasters..... I'm not a fan and wouldn't recommend them to anyone! For first-timers, this is the LAST place you want to go."

On the other hand, I've started from absolute scratch - no experience whatsoever - and have now published six books through Lightning Source. None have been disasters; quite the opposite, my first book gained the attention of publishers worldwide, and the others have all been financial successes with positive comments about the design and printing job. So, I would recommend the complete opposite to Lissajomonroe. But, as always, do your own detailed research to find what works best for you - don't just trust my word on its own (or anybody else's).

Kind regards,
Greg

Thanks Greg, This is such a big help

Super article. I have been looking at different self publishing options and this has been very helpful.

1. Do you need to be a registered or incorporated company to publish with LS?

2. Where did you obtain your ISBN and bar code from? The Bowker Agency website says they do not provide to
publishers outside of the U.S.

Some answers (sorry for the delay in responding)

Andrew: "Do you need to be a registered or incorporated company to publish with LS?"

Hi Andrew,

I didn't need to be when I signed up, though that is a few years back now - so things may have changed. Best to just apply and see how things turn out.

All I needed at the time was a bunch of ISBNs.

"2. Where did you obtain your ISBN and bar code from? The Bowker Agency website says they do not provide to
publishers outside of the U.S."

I'm in Australia, so my block was through Thorpe-Bowker. Much cheaper than the U.S. too, thankfully.

http://www.thorpe.com.au/isbn/index.htm

Kind regards,
Greg

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Really Appreciated to you for this post

Hey Lissa, can i ask what

Hey Lissa, can i ask what problems did you face with Lughtning?

I am also a book designer and we have designed more than 200 books for Lightning.

regards

need book design services

Hi I would like to submit my book to LS and am looking for someone that can format the files appropriately and insert some illustration files. It's a begining chapter book for kids, approx 5000 words.
If so, I can be reached directly at dekanafani@yahoo.com. Thanks!

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Incorporating as a Publisher?

Does Lightning Source print for me as a private author without me incorportating as a publisher, or do you have to do that step in order to purchase ISBNs?

Mike
Tucson, AZ. USA

I was just wondering if you

I was just wondering if you had to send them any tax stuff, like forms for the IRS. Some of the other companies I've researched (LSI's competitors) seem to require it, which can incur other expenses.

Matt from club penguin

IRS

hankjmatt wrote:

I was just wondering if you had to send them any tax stuff, like forms for the IRS. Some of the other companies I've researched (LSI's competitors) seem to require it, which can incur other expenses.

Matt from club penguin

I didn't need to Matt. But as I've said elsewhere, I signed up quite a few years ago now - so not sure if anything has changed.

A newbie here: can people

A newbie here: can people order single issues that will be shipped to them from Lightning source? I am assuming they don't have a webpage like other pod's do (Createspace and Lulu) where you can send people to buy your books. If I set up my own webpage for people to order the book will Lightningsource ship say a single book to them? And if so how would I link up the my webpage to Lightningsource to do this?

There is a cover generator with the ISBN number where they ask for the price.. how do I determine the price. I didn't see a price calculator (for my fee, Lightning sources fee and retail mark up) on the website so how do I know what to put on it? I'll need more information on all of these details so that I can figure out the price to put on my back cover.... how do I do this or get this information?

P.S. if my book is 7x10 and it's a graphic novel that I want to print all the way to the edge, what information do I put in for trim etc.? It is exactly how I want it right now at 7x10...

P.P.S. if I want to sell through Ingram, amazon all retailers, library exposure and individual sales do I pick this one? http://www.lightningsource.com/print_to_publisher.aspx

Thank you! Gina

LSI options

Hi Gina,

The usual approach if using Lightning Source is to use Amazon as your distributor. That is, you pay Amazon 20% of the retail price (the wholesale 'discount' on the book) to do all the work for you. You can still send out single copies to people yourself, but it's a little too work intensive to use as you have to punch everything into the LSI website yourself.

You don't need to put the price on the cover, this is only an option. But working out the price is one of the crucial decisions in selling a book - basically, you need to look at LSI's manufacturing fees per book, add in your Amazon wholesale discount and how much you want to make per book and go from there. Pricing details are on the LSI website.

Can't help you with the graphic novel information as I haven't done anything like that.

LSI Options Update

I've spent a few months investigating and actually trying print-on-demand vendors. I played with Amazon's Create Space for a while. I designed my cover, uploaded my book, got a couple of proof copies. I don't think the quality is so hot, but the problems aren't likely to be noticed by most consumers. Now, I'm into LSI. I will tell you, CreateSpace is EASY, compared to LSI, but LSI produces better quality and certainly better distribution support. LSI, as I read elsewhere, is not for the faint of heart. But if you are techncially adept, creative and handy with design software, you can do it yourself. LSI has a service they call POD Direct Distribution, which allows you to order your own books from LSI directly at the authors price without having to use Amazon or someone else. When you publish your book, you will also have the option of choosing POD Wholesale Distribution (which puts your book on the trade catalogs and on Amazon) and POD E-book publishing so your book can be sold via Nook and other ebook services. A separate agreement is required to get your book over to the Ipad or other Apple products, and that can be pricey. LSI will not put your book on Kindle, though, but that can be accomplished easily enough if you know how to do it and can get the formatting right. I had such a learning curve doing my book that I decided to set up an author services firm to help writers get it all done, including the Kindle, Ipad, Amazon, plus cover design, ISBN and bar code, interior book formating, etc etc for a flat fee of a few hundred dollars, using both CreateSpace and LSI. If you're interested, see www.pedernalespublishing.com

Jose

Lightning Source Detailed Sales Report?

Sorry about the late reply, but I just came across your excellent article.

I am interested in going the POD route with LS for my first title, and relegating my own publishing company efforts to book creation and marketing.

I was wondering if you could provide any information about the content that is included in the monthly (?) "detailed sales report" that LS sends to publishers, which is mentioned on their web site? I would think that without detailed sales information, my marketing efforts would be made extremely difficult.

Thanks in advance for any information and insight you can provide!

Sincerely,

Mike K.

Detailed Reports

Paperman wrote:

I was wondering if you could provide any information about the content that is included in the monthly (?) "detailed sales report" that LS sends to publishers, which is mentioned on their web site? I would think that without detailed sales information, my marketing efforts would be made extremely difficult.

Hi Mike,

The reports basically break down your total monthly sales compensation by book (ie. how many of each book were sold, and the profit on each book). Not exactly detailed, more a necessary report in order to pay royalties etc.

I have heard that you can contact your sales rep for more information on sales per channel etc, but I've never had the need to do this and so can't comment personally on whether this is something worth doing.

Using Light Sourcing from Abroad

Hi Greg,

Thanks for writing this article.
I'm interested in the fact that you used Light Source from abroad in Australia. (I'm assuming you are Australian?)What were the legal implications of that? Did you need a US bank account to start with LS? I assume your profits come under 'self-employment' when you declare your income for tax reasons in Australia?

I am a UK citizen but I currently live in Peru. Wondered if your experience would be able to shed light on any tax/business registration implications I might have. (Do you have to register as a business in order to use LS?)

Thanks,

Anna Burgess

Lightning Source

Personanna wrote:

Thanks for writing this article.
I'm interested in the fact that you used Light Source from abroad in Australia. (I'm assuming you are Australian?)What were the legal implications of that? Did you need a US bank account to start with LS? I assume your profits come under 'self-employment' when you declare your income for tax reasons in Australia?

I am a UK citizen but I currently live in Peru. Wondered if your experience would be able to shed light on any tax/business registration implications I might have. (Do you have to register as a business in order to use LS?)

Thanks,

Anna Burgess

Hi Anna,

No, I didn't need a US bank account, or any type of business details at all in fact, when I registered with LSI. However, this was way back (2004 from memory), so I don't know whether things have changed since. The only thing that was required was to have ISBNs for my books.

Yes, I am self-employed in terms of tax here in Australia, although it gets complicated with various streams of income as publisher and author, in multiple countries, from both book income and web advertising. So I just collate all the information and give it to my accountant! :)

Hey Greg

Hey Greg,

I am a 23 yr old Aussie from Melbourne that is looking to self publish. With so many different routes to take, it seems you have far more experience than me. It would be much appreciated if you could shoot me an email at daniel@danielchidiac.com and throw ideas back and forth. Your help would absolutely great on this matter.

Great Vibes,
Daniel
www.danielchidiac.com

Caught

This is really amazing. I got me and my friends looking for this info here. I am very grateful to know that you have posted and shared this unto us.

Help on Book

HELP...

Lightning source accepted our digital file, but now that the proof copy has been produced, they say that the text is "in the gutter." In other words, the text is not within the half inch border margin of the pages. The PDF that we sent using Acrobat 9 looks fine. How do we fix such a problem?

Bleed?

mike6469 wrote:

HELP...

Lightning source accepted our digital file, but now that the proof copy has been produced, they say that the text is "in the gutter." In other words, the text is not within the half inch border margin of the pages. The PDF that we sent using Acrobat 9 looks fine. How do we fix such a problem?

Not having seen your layout, nor their templates, did you have to add a bleed to all pages and did you include that in your calculations of each page?

Gutter Problems ?

I have yet to submit to LSI, but I do know that it makes sense in your PDF text block to alternate your gutter for front and back printing. If you don't do this, every other page will have text in the gutter (on the binding side of the paper.)

In MS Word you can set this option in the page setup. Other authoring tools must have a similar feature.

Hope this helps.

Kid's Illustrated Book

Hi

I'm looking to SP (of course!) my Children's Book - roughly 51 pages mixed text/and a lot of full colour page illustrations.

Greg you said that back in 2006 that printing of images wasn't fantastic.... It's 2011 and I notice that they offer full colour book printing now. I'm wondering if anyone has printed a full colour book and your experiences to the quality of the print, and the cost?

Cheers for all advice

AM (in Melbourne)

I don't know of any book of

I don't know of any book of this kind but I've considered the possibility, with the booklet printing technologies of today it wouldn't even so difficult, a full color book wouldn't have a significant higher cost...

Lightning Source now in Australia

In June 2011 Lightning Source announced the opening of a POD facility in Melbourne, Australia.

Press release:
http://www.ingramcontent.com/newsroom_detail.aspx?id=327

The article identifies the following book sellers in Australia that Lightning Source has relationships with... TheNile.com.au, Emporium Books Online, Dennis Jones & Associates, ALS Library Services, James Bennett, and DA Information Services.

Self-publishing registration. real name or company name

Hello! thanks a lot for this useful information.
I have a question, probably you can help me guys.

1. To make a registration for ISBN, what is the difference between putting a "real name" and a "company name"?
I would like to buy a ISBN number like a self-publisher, but I really don't know the legal difference.

Thanks a lot.

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